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by Paul Kovaks
Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:10 pm
Forum: What is spiritual abuse?
Topic: TRUTHING IN LOVE
Replies: 14
Views: 1446

Re: TRUTHING IN LOVE

Yes Faith, this is exactly what we experienced. The whole thing is just so stupid to me now, a year later, that I am so embarrassed (and devastated) for being part of it for over 30 years. It all hung on those doing the judging being at least mostly right and this would require completely supernatur...
by Paul Kovaks
Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:43 pm
Forum: Library
Topic: 5 Indicators of an Evil Heart
Replies: 2
Views: 684

Re: 5 Indicators of an Evil Heart

Everything I have seen of XCFs and Vic Hall are consistent with Than's accusation as much as I hate to say it. And I was a defender of Vic 100 times. It was agenda and control driven. It was one way love (from us). It was self seeking. It never, ever looked like the book of Acts. It's nowhere to be ...
by Paul Kovaks
Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:39 am
Forum: General
Topic: The level of degradation that MCF reached 1994-2016
Replies: 57
Views: 6006

Re: The level of degradation that MCF reached 1994-2016

Nope eagles, I'm fine, but thanks! New place is really good. Talked full details and fully appreciated by them and much compassion shown to us. I don't think anyone outside of it can ever fully understand but these guys pretty close. And definitely not being prescriptive towards us (after what we've...
by Paul Kovaks
Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:23 pm
Forum: General
Topic: The level of degradation that MCF reached 1994-2016
Replies: 57
Views: 6006

Re: The level of degradation that MCF reached 1994-2016

They extrapolated a lot from Zechariah's vision (Zech 4) of the lampstand with twin bowls and twin olive trees. That's not so much their teaching about headship etc but about church leadership ALL coming from ONE apostolic bowl. They've admitted now that this was probably an OT pattern for Israel. Z...
by Paul Kovaks
Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:36 pm
Forum: General
Topic: The level of degradation that MCF reached 1994-2016
Replies: 57
Views: 6006

Re: The level of degradation that MCF reached 1994-2016

I didn't have that much to do with Ray Jackson Jnr. But he was pseudo-head of the presbytery at the time it was happening to me so ultimately the accountability is his, true. In early 2016 he was compassionate towards me but then 'handed me over' to the current presbytery. But by late 2016 I drove t...
by Paul Kovaks
Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:08 pm
Forum: General
Topic: The level of degradation that MCF reached 1994-2016
Replies: 57
Views: 6006

Re: The level of degradation that MCF reached 1994-2016

Ray Jackson Snr or Jnr?
by Paul Kovaks
Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:05 pm
Forum: General
Topic: The level of degradation that MCF reached 1994-2016
Replies: 57
Views: 6006

Re: The level of degradation that MCF reached 1994-2016

PART 7. THE UPSHOT The upshot of all this goings on at MCF (Melbourne Christian Fellowship) is what? Was one family destroyed by one bad local elder? Was there something terribly wrong with us? Was it that local leader? Was it the local presbytery? Was it the BCF teachings? 1. It was not one family ...
by Paul Kovaks
Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:14 pm
Forum: Doctrine and Teaching
Topic: Covenant Family
Replies: 20
Views: 1946

Re: Covenant Family

Yep, judging and puffing-up isn't just a Pentecostal thing! Immersion of course makes sense biblically but God is merciful (either way). But baptising babies is a GENUINELY strange thing to do given the closely related command of 'repent'. On the other hand, how come many (most?) Pentecostals give h...
by Paul Kovaks
Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:14 am
Forum: Doctrine and Teaching
Topic: Covenant Family
Replies: 20
Views: 1946

Re: Covenant Family

I suspect many of us in the 'water baptism is for believers' camp have lent on this Scripture, over the years, as an additional reason (beyond repenting can't be done by babies) as to why we don't need to do infant baptisms. The Lord is watching over our little ones. No need to take it any further.
by Paul Kovaks
Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:34 pm
Forum: Doctrine and Teaching
Topic: Covenant Family
Replies: 20
Views: 1946

Re: Covenant Family

It's all based on 1 Cor 7:14 14For the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his believing wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy. To partly come to MCF/BCF's defence here, how else are we to int...