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PART 7. THE UPSHOT The upshot of all this goings on at MCF (Melbourne Christian Fellowship) is what? Was one family destroyed by one bad local elder? Was there something terribly wrong with us? Was it that local leader? Was it the local presbytery? Was it the BCF teachings? 1. It was not one family ...

Yep, judging and puffing-up isn't just a Pentecostal thing! Immersion of course makes sense biblically but God is merciful (either way). But baptising babies is a GENUINELY strange thing to do given the closely related command of 'repent'. On the other hand, how come many (most?) Pentecostals give h...

I suspect many of us in the 'water baptism is for believers' camp have lent on this Scripture, over the years, as an additional reason (beyond repenting can't be done by babies) as to why we don't need to do infant baptisms. The Lord is watching over our little ones. No need to take it any further.

It's all based on 1 Cor 7:14 14For the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his believing wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy. To partly come to MCF/BCF's defence here, how else are we to int...

Sure eagles, I'll keep you honest. I haven't kept great track of the Lutheran Church except I have fond memories of my time there and their mostly BIblical stance and I have a soft spot for them. LIkely they, as well as many other mainstream and independent churches, are and will give in via comprom...

The slavery that MCF brought on us was no different to the return to the law of the Galatians (chapter 5): 1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery . 2 Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselv...

Oh, it is war eagles, you're right on the money. And our weapon is the Scriptures and our mouths and the HS in our words. We are NOT to accept lording over: 2 Cor 11:19, 20 You gladly put up with fools since you are so wise! For you tolerate it if: anyone enslaves you anyone devours you anyone takes...

It is so clear that we have been led by ULTRA control freaks who stopped using the Scriptures to see how to live and govern a long time ago. I think because of the authoritarian nature of their first guru (Ray Snr) they never were required to take initiative or search the Scriptures critically thems...

By the way, did you guys know, as pointed out by my wife, that the deacons, men of high standing, serving and ministry (eg Philip), of Acts 6 were chosen BY THE CONGREGATION! Brothers and sisters, choose seven men from among you who are known to be full of the Spirit and wisdom. We will turn this re...

Will read Eagles, thanks.

And, yes, Connor et al did do exactly what Scripture outlines: point out the errors with witnesses. They did their part from that point of view.

But, yes, what happens when the leadership ignores you? That then goes to the other discussion we've been having here . .