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Agape Meals not Communion

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:40 pm
by Faith Hopegood
I heard through the grapevine that there is a "new" revelation in Fellowship Town. Due to his superior connections to the almighty, the latest revelation that Supreme Beloved Leader Vic Hall has changed communion. Of course we all know that Vic receives "special revelations from God" which apparently the rest of the Christian Church misses out on because Vic is special. Not even the 2nd tier leaders or plebs at Swampford have such a clear connection to the Creator.

Apparently the people at Swampford no longer have communion in the church service. I am told that after the church service, the participate in Agape Meals where they fellowship together and discuss the preach word etc etc. Apparently the Swamp Dwellers were told this is the way communion was "supposed to be" and represents a return to true doctrine as happened in the early Christian church. Of course this is all 2nd or 3rd hand information and I may well be wrong.

However it would not surprise me. This is part of Vicious Hall's repertoire of tools of how to keep people believing that he indeed is a great leader, star messenger and on the same level as the Apostle Paul. this is also part of Vic's modus operandi in keeping everyone under his control and not allowing them to think (or even perhaps read the bible independently). The doctrine and practice of the Christian Fellowship is a combination of Gnostic beliefs and Roman Catholic beliefs where all the word comes through the leader (priest or pope), there is no certain assurance of salvation and you have to keep working your way towards heaven. The Gnostic portion is the indisputable fact that people in the Christian Fellowship believe they are superior to the rest of Christianity, they have a better revealed word that no one else has. (this has been preached for decades both from the pulpit, in home fellowship groups and in private counselling sessions).

In summary, the Christian Fellowship is a cultish sect at best with extreme unhealthy group control practices and preaching various forms of twisted scriptures touching at times on heresy. They have certainly completely missed the primary message of the Gospel, that Jesus Christ came to be a sacrifice for us and redeem us from Sin so that we could have complete forgiveness from sins and have a personal loving relationship with God, our Creator and lover of our souls. If they truly only realised the completeness of what a wonderful miracle happened two thousand years ago and be thankful for that miracle, then the CF would have to keep inventing new and exciting words like baubles to distract the plebs from God's real purpose.

I will leave you with a definition of Gnosticism from the trusty Wikipedia
Gnostics considered the principal element of salvation to be direct knowledge of the supreme divinity in the form of mystical or esoteric insight. Many Gnostic texts deal not in concepts of sin and repentance, but with illusion and enlightenment.[3]

Re: Agape Meals not Communion

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:25 am
by Paul Kovaks
Yes, I can confirm this new teaching (from 2nd-hand interactions with insiders).
You're totally right, FH, MCF/BCF is just a nutcase cult more than ever but many of the congregation is lapping it up and are still preaching it to their non-XCF families and ex-XCFers as if it's something that could draw us back in (!!!!!).

We've also reliably heard that MCF is
* down to no elders
* Gary Worth & Bob Stevens retired
* Vic's trying to gain control down there and establish BCFers or re-invent MCF
* Nobody in Melbourne wants to run MCF fulltime

It's just incredible that MCF, after all these years - and so many enthusiastic, gifted Christians went thru there - has essentially come to NOTHING.
They trampled us for so many years that NOBODY there wants to put their hand up.
Everyone who had a love of the Word and of people was utterly crushed there.
And we all watched the elders kids hugely favoured for every possible non-menial task.
MCF totally deserves this of course.
Remember, my father's vision of the elders chained to a cart, wearing millstones heading down into a dark abyss.
The congregation is there either because of family or they still stupidly think Vic is an apostle.

Re: Agape Meals not Communion

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:20 pm
by Faith Hopegood
Thanks for the update from Melbourne Paul. It certainly is strange there are no elders in Melbourne as it goes against everything that the Christian Fellowship stood for for decades - it was eldership that was the centrepiece. How times have changed. Can you confirm that it is now only Vic Hall who is leading the fellowship in Melbourne? Also, how many people are in the Melbourne congregation? It would appear that numbers have continued to fall. It would also be realistic to consider that Covid19 lockdowns have had a bad effect on the fellowship numbers in Victoria. It could be that people have used the opportunity of lockdowns to look for greener pastures elsewhere. It is a very sad indictment on the fellowship that they have completely abandoned the eldership model as it was foundational to everything they stood for. It also speaks to the complete lack of training and succession planning. It is self-evident that the christian fellowship is now just a pyramid church with a narcissist self deluded leader at the top and minions and underlings beneath. It is just a resource extraction exercise. Vic is desperately trying to maintain his position as self appointed star messenger by coming up with new changeable doctrine to impress and control the masses - the Agape Meals is just the latest example of this deluded model of heretical false teachings.

Re: Agape Meals not Communion

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:23 pm
by Paul Kovaks
It's not that they have abandoned eldership.
It's rather, that they're assessing the current shortlist and there are no obvious appointments OR willing young full-timers.
And we do hear that Vic is heavily involved.

Who knows for sure? Almost no one talks to me.
We pray positively for their repentance and restoration (or else their dissolving to nothing).