I am very concerned for the safety of the children and teenagers in CF
The current messages are trying to disable parents from stopping abuse.
And it is teaching children to submit to the abuse
In fact, it is teaching families to deny abuse and see it as a way to salvation and to deny their children’s distress
If you are a young person reading this and you are stuck, there are people who care. Abuse is always wrong, you deserve safety, and there is help . please email me for help cifs.workshop.bcf@gmail.com
If you are a parent, do not let the leaders into your home and allow them to harm your family. do not turn off the instinct inside you that tells you that this is wrong and I need to protect my kids. If you are stuck, you can email me too
I have analysed some quotes and it is disturbing, taken from the sermons at BCF on 24 Nov – current live stream https://communion.bcf.org.au/
First sermon from Luke Pomery (24/11/24)
His sermon is priming and disarming the parent
“okay so there's a progression from becoming a worthy house to becoming a first fruits house. a worthy house, this is my summary, is one that receives the messenger and the word that the messenger brings and that message has been sent from the Fellowship of the presbytery. So a worthy house is receiving the message and they're also accepting the reforming process that the word precipitates in their life. so they're actually accepting the word to them and to their household, it's instigating a process as we heard this morning of washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit. they’re accepting that. To me it also feels like we're just getting to that point isn’t it, we are accepting the process the words bringing
….so everyone of us are to become a first fruit home because it's only a first fruits home- that is a house that has the double portion of oil - that's invited into the marriage Supper of the lamb”
in other words, What they are saying is if you want to be saved, you have to let the leaders come into your home and allow them to do whatever they want to you and your family. you have to accept whatever they say and do and accept whatever impact that has on your family
Second sermon from Peter Hay (24/11/24)
In his introduction, he stated he introduced this content at the teens break up and it’s taken from ‘the Elijah ministry in church’ book from Easter 2024 and he primes the families again
again saying, So if you do accept and submit to what the leaders are about to say, then you lose your salvation.“..a worthy house is a house that receives the action of footwashing…If you don’t have your feet washed, and you don’t participate in the action of washing another’s feet, you have no part with Him, that means you are not joined to Him, and have no part in his inheritance
he is manipulating the parents, an abuser needs to weaken and undermine family relationships so he describes strong family units as filth and fallen“now in relation to our children in particular, so now I'm talking about parents and how we engage with our children. and we wash their feet in preparation for their journey each day. so this is part of training up our children in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. so washing feet is fundamental to this action. in relation to our children in particular, we are not so much washing the filth of the world from their feet…but we're washing the filth have belongs to our fallen familiar cultures and we are teaching them to trust the lord and embrace their daily fellowship with Christ in his offering and sufferings”
an abuser must train the parents to turn off their parental instincts, he is saying don’t respond to your child with empathy and stop what is harming them, instead, tell them that they must obey the abuser and submit to the abuse“okay so when my kids are coming home and we're talking about the day in the injustices and the difficulties of the day,washing their feet is not saying ‘you poor little sock, let's deal with this thing here’ . washing their feet is a conversation birthed from Lisa and I’s repentance, from the dead works and familiar cultures that are the filth on the way that they walk and extending to them the oil of the spirit from our one-spirit fellowship so that as they walk through life, they are equipped for obedience and through that obedience… so we are extending to our children the anointing of the spirit that – so for my family that Lisa and I are finding through our submission to the lordship of Christ - which enables us to be one spirit. so that they can walk in the world- this is our children- carrying the fragrance of Christ which is diffused in every place through their obedience.”
He targets mothers- firstly by saying mothers- your instincts to guide and protect are wrong and ungodly“now a godly mother washes the feet of those who are in her house and she does this through intercessory prayer and through the word of motherhood. now it's important to note, that the word of motherhood is not just your opinions- ladies- about what a child needs to do to navigate just the difficulties of life. that is not the word of motherhood.”
the abuser says, mothers, deny the abuse ‘no victims in christ’ what a total denial of abuse. He is coaching mothers to not respond to the distress and disclosures of their children, he is telling them to turn off that urge to speak out and protect“the word of motherhood - this is proverbs 31- teaches us this. this is the law of kindness that's on her lips, that law of kindness is the wisdom of the Cross…that means a woman who is washing her children's faith through the law of kindness which is on her lips which is the wisdom of the Cross is teaching her children that they are no victims in Christ. so in the circumstances in life that the children face and the injustices and the difficulties and the bullying and all the things that are happening, if you are touching the dying and living yourself of Jesus Christ, you are able to communicate the wisdom of the Lord to that child to secure them in the fellowship of Christ’s offerings and sufferings, so that they journey with Christ as well. Ok, no victims in Christ. and you can see that there's a lot of activity that we can engage in and that we get energized towards because we see our children being unjustly treated and we think we are too. so we rise up and act against these things and all we’re doing is being energized by familiar spirits aren't we? We’re not delivering our children from this fallen way of walking.”
he also targets fathers, he tells them to teach your children to obey to their abusers, to embrace their abuse, and to teach the a horrific lie- that the abuse is sent from God“Godly fathers teach their children the way of the Cross and that peace, okay so remember we're washing our children's feet so that they are shod, their feet are shod, with the preparation of the gospel of peace. so godly father's teach their children the way of the Cross and that peace is obtained as we walk by the spirit and embrace the sufferings that belong to Christ's chastening. they direct their children to the obedience of Christ as their submission to his lordship in the order of headship”
In the MCF meeting of 17 Nov, Peter Hay testifies to the above in the treatment of his own daughter. I might post it in a separate post. It is disturbing.
Parents do not listen to this man, this is not a messenger of Christ preaching the word of God, this man is using your fear of going to hell and using tactics of manipulation so the leaders can harm families.
Parents, protect your children!