Here are a few notable achievers who were hugely committed christians in their own personal lives whilst leading to some historic breakthroughs and achievements in science, health, engineering etc: Isaac Newton, Michael Faraday, Lewis Carrol, Louis Pasteur, James Joule, Joseph Lister, Lord Kelvin. Don't forget some of the famous Scottish ship and bridge builders who are responsible for most of the famous civil structures in the world.
These are people who heard the call of God upon their lives and used their God given talents to the highest levels for the betterment of mankind as a whole. If Vic had been the pastor to any of this people and taught them the destructive rubbish as you highlighted above Paul, we would still be living in thatched huts poking coal stoves in winter!
We have to remember, Vic hates people succeeding. Vic must be number one. This is why the teachings of the Christian Fellowship are so twisted and heretical.
It is a biblical principle to strive for excellence in everything you do. Read Proverbs 22:29 "Do you see a man skilful in his work; He will stand before kings; he will not stand before obscure men."
Contrast the biblical instructions with the actions and words of Vic Hall and the Christian Fellowship. God wants you to be happy and satisfied with your life and work whereas Vic Hall and his rank minions would constantly tear you down, cause you to doubt your heavenly calling and put snares, traps, discouragemen, destruction and dispair to your life.
Look to your Heavenly Father for your future, not earthly false teachers.
Maybe we can add the heresies of BCF to the list - I'm sure mainstream Christianity would be just as shocked to see the heresies of Swampford...
https://www.npr.org/2018/12/09/67499507 ... -rebellion
VERY true. He must be 'the fatherhood' in all things. He must be 'the head' in all things. He must have 'the fathering word', i.e. the final say and the last word, in all matters, questions, doubts, discussions, proposals and plans. And no one, ABSOLUTELY NO ONE, can try to take any direction that deviates even the slightest from where he's set the course. Should anyone even remotely attempt to do so - they will suffer a tempest of gang-style attacks, organised for the final goal of ripping that person's life, confidence, hopes, dreams, future and happiness to shreds.
The information I read from an author called Piggins in a book called
Stuart Piggin, Evangelical Christianity in Australia: Spirit, word and world, Melbourne: Oxford University Press, 1996.
I also found an interesting link here on the ungodly doctrine.
https://au.thegospelcoalition.org/artic ... ectionism/
All this got my little brain cells thinking "Ah!!! I have heard this somewhere else!".
I would draw our good readers attending to that wonderful work by Victor Hall called "Unto Perfection" published in 1987 and its really exciting 1990 sequel "Let us God On Unto Perfection".
Sadly, the demand is just not there for reprints of these theological masterpieces and they are long out of print.
There are those of us who are old enough to remember all the hullabaloo in the Fellowship when Vic Hall first published Unto Perfection in 1987. It was mandatory reading for all the congregation and it was heavily pushed at the bookstand/table which each fellowship used to run at the back of each church service. For years Vic was held in Pontif like awe by the plebs and every nearly every sermon and home group study at the Christian Fellowship was sourced from Vic's words of wisdom. We all sat around like 1960's hippies listening to their guru whilst experimenting with hallucinagenic drugs such was the trance Vic had everyone in. Every time someone spoke it was "Vic said this and Vic said that". There was not much about Jesus to be honest.
Anyway, my point is this. Vic Hall presented his heretical teachings in Unto Perfection as divine inspiration from God and a never before seen "correct" view of the scriptures. Vic was truly seen as a guru in the Christian Fellowship circles (along with sidekick minions and Co-authors, Murray Wylie and Doug Watt). Now we find out this type of teaching about Sinless Perfection is not new at all and was introduced into Australia by 6 families back in the 1930's including a family called Agnew (which some people will know is synonymous with the Exclusive Brethren although this is not confirmed at this point). Apparently even Charles Wesley dabbled in this doctrine for a while and then had to clarify and change his ways.
Vic Hall is just a plain out and out lier and deceiver. He packages up old discredited doctrines (which have been denounced by most churches as dangerous or plain heresy) and then proceeds to con the people in the Christian Fellowship that Vic received all this via "revelation".
The question is this: Does Vic Hall still hold to his doctrine as presented in Unto Perfection, or, has Vic Hall changed his doctrine? Either way, it proves the man is just a charlatan and con-man who brazenly manipulates and controls people. I truly hope that some people in the Christian Fellowship read this post and do some research and take my advice - run, get out of there, run far, run fast and don't go back. Find a church that preaches the true bible gospel and not the empire of some con-man, no matter how nice all the people who are in the Christian Fellowship are. All cults, particularly christian cults, are full of "really nice people.
Do some research yourselves into the subject and read about it.
I recall trying to decode that gobblygook for years after, and still it didn't make any sense.
I hope this finds you well and not being brain-washed by all the hype around the 'virus'.
Thanks again for posting the article.
Yes, I remember your travails with your printing work and all the effort you put in. And yes, Vic was a thankless sod, which is I think is a personality trait of narcissists and psychopaths. Vic had similar ruthless personality traits similar to the fallen leader of the Falkencrest Slave Stables. (birds of a feather flock together). They had an uncanny ability to identify people who would be useful to them, then proceed to use up all their resources, whether it be time, money or expertise. Once they had consumed you, they then discarded you/me without even a second thought or a blink of an eye or even a care for your welfare.
I too am disappointed that there are not more posts on Streetcar. I hope the Streetcar Administrators are actually looking at the applications of people who wishing to join Streetcar.
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